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hippybngstockngAh Mawiage, the dweam wiffin a dweam...
Sorry, I just feel like all posts in which I plan to be silly about marriage should start that way. Seriously though, I clearly like marriage or I wouldn't be, but I don't see it as a thing for everyone. It can be a real serious pain in the ass sometimes, and about as fun a being thrown an open sac of ten pound hammers, but on its good days, marriage really rocks my socks and I wouldn't hand mine in for all the tea cakes it would take to stack up all the way to the moon, even if I could turn around and sell them on eBay. Yep, I really do love him THAT MUCH, even on his bad days, so that's why I married him. This way he's legally required to be there.
Anyway, if you're the kind of person who doesn't want to get married, I suggest you just don't. Marriage is not the ultimate state of being, you've realized this, and that's great! Accept yourself and your needs, and be happy about them, not ashamed. Above all things, I suggest you don't lie about why you don't want to get married, and especially don't make up half-baked philosophical reasons why marriage will eventually become something people don't even believe in, and then REALLY ESPECIALLY don't use Star Trek as an example.. Why? Because SOMEWHERE out there, like perhaps RIGHT HERE ON MY LJ, some overly silly little nerd girl who hears about it through a third party, and who has WAY too much free time since her kid was dropped off at day care, might feel a sudden wave of geekery (and caffeine) flood over her, and feel forced by the competitive geeking gland to begin a master list of the married couples on Star Trek to prove you wrong, if only for the singular purpose of doing just that- Yes, silly geek dude I don't even know who really actually doesn't want to get married, but would rather try to claim that NO ONE on Star Trek is married, than admit he simply doesn't want to get married, or at least doesn't want to get married to the equally silly not-a-geek-girl who was even sweet enough to propose IN LEGO- YOUR SILLY EXCUSES have inspired me to even just begin to jot down some of the myriad of married people you can see on Star Trek. I haven't even watched all the series, in fact, I kinda tuned out before the last season of DS9, and I can tell that I'm still more of a nerd than you are because I know that you're WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!! Like HOLY SHIT ARE YOU WRONG!!! Like I question you ever watched Star Trek, except maybe with a helmet on, and ear plugs..
Before I have even finished my second cup of coffee of the morning, and with only minimal help from my husband, whose geek cred far exceeds mine by a factor of 20, I bring you the following very brief beginning of a list, and invite my friends here on LJ to help me fill in any blanks, like, oh, VOYAGER, and ENTERPRISE both of which I lacked the patience to fully watch. Also, please for the love of Trek correct my spelling of names, as I am sure they're all wrong since while I am a Trek geek, I don't read the fan stuff, so I have never seen half this shit actually spelled out.
TOS-
-Episode:Balance of Power- couple almost gets married but dude dies-This entire episode talks a LOT about marriage, actually.
-Spock's parents are married!
-Kirk's brother is married!
-Nurse Chappel was engaged to be married, before her boyfriend turned into a robot and stopped calling.
-Lots of the colonists they run into through the series are married.
-Lots of people in Star Fleet, while they whine about how hard it is, are married anyway.
-Harcourt Fenton Mudd is married, and now his wife is 100 robots hell bent on harassing him until he's dead.
-Mudd delivers 3 women to 3 miners with the EXPRESS PURPOSE of marriage, and the marriages do not end up being shams- the entire episode is based on loving people for who they are, in fact.
TNG-
-Miles and Keiko O'Brien GET MARRIED in one of the first few episodes. Picard officiates, and Data gave away the bride.
-Nurse Ogawa and her beau get married, off screen, since they are minor characters, in fact I don't think you actually ever see him at all.
-Dr. Crusher is a widow.
-Riker and Troi eventually marry, but it doesn't happen until the movies, but you see their romance blossom very slowly through the whole series..
-Worf's adoptive parents are still married.
-Worf almost gets married but his "mate" is killed before they can seal the deal.
-Picard's brother is married.
-Jordy's parents, while they are assigned to different ships in different parts of the galaxy, are still married.
-Riker's father is a widower.
-Data's father/creator is married, but he does eventually get dumped. Data's sorta-mom remarries, happily.
-Again, more married colonists and visiting scientists than you can shake a warp core at.
-And again, more married people in Star Fleet than you could wave a prime directive at.
DS9-
-Worf and Dax GET MARRIED, again, on camera- This will be Dax's umptimillionth marriage through 8 lifetimes, a married klingon woman performs the ceremony, her husband is the best man.
-Cisco is a widower.
-The O'Briens live here for the bulk of the series, they even have marriage problems and reunite!
-Cisco might marry his girlfriend Cassidy before the end of the series, either way they were planning to spend life together, but then he kinda died. Kinda.
-The Grand Nagus of Ferenginar and Quark's mom get married at some point.
-Don't Rom and the chick with the big boobs get married at some point??
-And there's a whole friggin' planet full of B'Jorins below, and many of them are MARRIED.
[Some additional- This doesn't even begin to cover the other societies that are talked about on screen that don't have marriage, but have other kinds of unions, commitment ceremonies, and legally united families of all shapes and sizes!! Maybe not technically what you'd call marriage, but I say it still smells like marriage, so I say IT COUNTS! :P ]
Is there a moral to my geeky wanking? Why yes!!!--- Geeks should not try to lie to non-geeks about stuff, because there's always another geek just out of earshot out there with too much free time who will feel compelled by their own geekiness to destroy the lie, especially if it's about their geek-lust of choice. Be smart. Be honest.
Sorry, I just feel like all posts in which I plan to be silly about marriage should start that way. Seriously though, I clearly like marriage or I wouldn't be, but I don't see it as a thing for everyone. It can be a real serious pain in the ass sometimes, and about as fun a being thrown an open sac of ten pound hammers, but on its good days, marriage really rocks my socks and I wouldn't hand mine in for all the tea cakes it would take to stack up all the way to the moon, even if I could turn around and sell them on eBay. Yep, I really do love him THAT MUCH, even on his bad days, so that's why I married him. This way he's legally required to be there.
Anyway, if you're the kind of person who doesn't want to get married, I suggest you just don't. Marriage is not the ultimate state of being, you've realized this, and that's great! Accept yourself and your needs, and be happy about them, not ashamed. Above all things, I suggest you don't lie about why you don't want to get married, and especially don't make up half-baked philosophical reasons why marriage will eventually become something people don't even believe in, and then REALLY ESPECIALLY don't use Star Trek as an example.. Why? Because SOMEWHERE out there, like perhaps RIGHT HERE ON MY LJ, some overly silly little nerd girl who hears about it through a third party, and who has WAY too much free time since her kid was dropped off at day care, might feel a sudden wave of geekery (and caffeine) flood over her, and feel forced by the competitive geeking gland to begin a master list of the married couples on Star Trek to prove you wrong, if only for the singular purpose of doing just that- Yes, silly geek dude I don't even know who really actually doesn't want to get married, but would rather try to claim that NO ONE on Star Trek is married, than admit he simply doesn't want to get married, or at least doesn't want to get married to the equally silly not-a-geek-girl who was even sweet enough to propose IN LEGO- YOUR SILLY EXCUSES have inspired me to even just begin to jot down some of the myriad of married people you can see on Star Trek. I haven't even watched all the series, in fact, I kinda tuned out before the last season of DS9, and I can tell that I'm still more of a nerd than you are because I know that you're WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!! Like HOLY SHIT ARE YOU WRONG!!! Like I question you ever watched Star Trek, except maybe with a helmet on, and ear plugs..
Before I have even finished my second cup of coffee of the morning, and with only minimal help from my husband, whose geek cred far exceeds mine by a factor of 20, I bring you the following very brief beginning of a list, and invite my friends here on LJ to help me fill in any blanks, like, oh, VOYAGER, and ENTERPRISE both of which I lacked the patience to fully watch. Also, please for the love of Trek correct my spelling of names, as I am sure they're all wrong since while I am a Trek geek, I don't read the fan stuff, so I have never seen half this shit actually spelled out.
TOS-
-Episode:Balance of Power- couple almost gets married but dude dies-This entire episode talks a LOT about marriage, actually.
-Spock's parents are married!
-Kirk's brother is married!
-Nurse Chappel was engaged to be married, before her boyfriend turned into a robot and stopped calling.
-Lots of the colonists they run into through the series are married.
-Lots of people in Star Fleet, while they whine about how hard it is, are married anyway.
-Harcourt Fenton Mudd is married, and now his wife is 100 robots hell bent on harassing him until he's dead.
-Mudd delivers 3 women to 3 miners with the EXPRESS PURPOSE of marriage, and the marriages do not end up being shams- the entire episode is based on loving people for who they are, in fact.
TNG-
-Miles and Keiko O'Brien GET MARRIED in one of the first few episodes. Picard officiates, and Data gave away the bride.
-Nurse Ogawa and her beau get married, off screen, since they are minor characters, in fact I don't think you actually ever see him at all.
-Dr. Crusher is a widow.
-Riker and Troi eventually marry, but it doesn't happen until the movies, but you see their romance blossom very slowly through the whole series..
-Worf's adoptive parents are still married.
-Worf almost gets married but his "mate" is killed before they can seal the deal.
-Picard's brother is married.
-Jordy's parents, while they are assigned to different ships in different parts of the galaxy, are still married.
-Riker's father is a widower.
-Data's father/creator is married, but he does eventually get dumped. Data's sorta-mom remarries, happily.
-Again, more married colonists and visiting scientists than you can shake a warp core at.
-And again, more married people in Star Fleet than you could wave a prime directive at.
DS9-
-Worf and Dax GET MARRIED, again, on camera- This will be Dax's umptimillionth marriage through 8 lifetimes, a married klingon woman performs the ceremony, her husband is the best man.
-Cisco is a widower.
-The O'Briens live here for the bulk of the series, they even have marriage problems and reunite!
-Cisco might marry his girlfriend Cassidy before the end of the series, either way they were planning to spend life together, but then he kinda died. Kinda.
-The Grand Nagus of Ferenginar and Quark's mom get married at some point.
-Don't Rom and the chick with the big boobs get married at some point??
-And there's a whole friggin' planet full of B'Jorins below, and many of them are MARRIED.
[Some additional- This doesn't even begin to cover the other societies that are talked about on screen that don't have marriage, but have other kinds of unions, commitment ceremonies, and legally united families of all shapes and sizes!! Maybe not technically what you'd call marriage, but I say it still smells like marriage, so I say IT COUNTS! :P ]
Is there a moral to my geeky wanking? Why yes!!!--- Geeks should not try to lie to non-geeks about stuff, because there's always another geek just out of earshot out there with too much free time who will feel compelled by their own geekiness to destroy the lie, especially if it's about their geek-lust of choice. Be smart. Be honest.
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Date: 2006-08-23 02:23 pm (UTC)Lt. Paris and B'Elana get married eventually [and have a baby!]
Capt. Janeway has a fiancee left back on earth. [Mark]
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Date: 2006-08-23 02:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 02:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 02:28 pm (UTC)Voyager -
- Paris and B'Elanna get married. There's even a 'Just Married' sign on the back of a shuttle-type craft at the end of the episode.
- Janeway is married. Her husband and her have dogs.
Oh, and don't forget that Spock's dad married twice, both times to humans.
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Date: 2006-08-23 02:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 02:41 pm (UTC)aaawww... I wish I had seen that one. In fact, I wish I had a screen shot of that for this post! *toddles off to google for a few hours*
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Date: 2006-08-23 02:44 pm (UTC)I will own up to my own geekiness by saying, when I advanced the timeline 15 years in our superhero roleplaying universe, I created a list like this of the married characters and their children so I could see what 'new' (i.e. the kids who were suddenly aged) characters were available for everyone to play.
Yup, superheroes are my geek-lust of choice :)
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Date: 2006-08-23 05:45 pm (UTC)Heck in an interview with the (bleH) writer he implied that Bruce could've gotten married a couple of times, and tied one on before Di does( to a MORTAL man)
Of course we know that Barry was the first Justice Leaguer to take the plunge.
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Date: 2006-08-23 05:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 03:31 pm (UTC)In TNG there's a whole episode centering around Troi's arranged marriage and how she gets out of it. First episode where Lwuxana shows up, actually.
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Date: 2006-08-23 03:47 pm (UTC)Spock was married before Amok Time, was he not?
Picard gets married in the one where he learns to play the flute.
Khan married the woman from the crew who went down to Ceti Alpha 6 with him, didn't he?
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Date: 2006-08-23 04:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 05:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-24 03:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 05:33 pm (UTC)And that being the case, would we also have to count all those marriages that supposedly never happened in the reality that was erased by Odo in that one episode of DS9 where the major cast gets stranded on a planet and totally breeds the place up! They happened, they were just also completely canceled out of existence by the end of the episode.
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Date: 2006-08-23 06:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 07:13 pm (UTC)Oh hey, don't he and Crusher get married at some point between some of the movies? I seem to remember that at one point there's "Captain Picard is coming" and then it's her -- because he is, of course, Admiral or whatever at that point, and it's sort of a joke to make ppl go "he got demoted?!? What?!" and then "OH his WIFE" (because, of course, the medical ranks lead to captaincy... oh, wait).
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Date: 2006-08-23 08:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 08:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 05:06 pm (UTC)Wow... and...
Date: 2006-08-23 05:13 pm (UTC)Re: Wow... and...
Date: 2006-08-23 05:26 pm (UTC)Re: Wow... and...
Date: 2006-08-25 06:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-23 07:09 pm (UTC)How can any geeky guy worth his salt turn down a gal who proposes IN LEGO??!!!?
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Date: 2006-08-23 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-24 12:37 am (UTC)LOL, if I weren't so concerned that he'd find itposted on some geek-lego website, I'd be tempted to just copy and paste the whole post into a comment :)
And seriously, I'm still laughing. Is it ok if I link some friends (who share my opinion of the fella) over here?!
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Date: 2006-08-24 01:36 am (UTC)Feel free to send your friends over here if you like, I had a great time writing this, so I'm just really glad it didn't piss you off! :)
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Date: 2006-08-24 09:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-24 02:00 am (UTC)